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Post by franmar on Jul 7, 2009 20:49:42 GMT
As Gordon Brown and his cabinet do not see fit to honour our service men and women after being killed in the service of this country through being ill equipt for war does anyone agree with me that the town and the people of WOOTEN BASSET should be honoured in some way for the respect they show to our dead service personal on thier return to this country.
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Post by oxenboy on Jul 7, 2009 21:13:58 GMT
As Gordon Brown and his cabinet do not see fit to honour our service men and women after being killed in the service of this country through being ill equipt for war does anyone agree with me that the town and the people of WOOTEN BASSET should be honoured in some way for the respect they show to our dead service personal on thier return to this country. Totally agree with you |
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Post by wulvo on Jul 7, 2009 21:43:53 GMT
Yes, I agree, the town and it's people should be honoured
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Post by fendtdriver on Jul 11, 2009 18:23:31 GMT
I concur
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Post by pretender on Jul 11, 2009 19:16:12 GMT
Loads of people get killed at work, why should the military be honoured when they get killed? They signed up for a job and knew the risks when they did so.
It is not as though the Germans are flying over the Channel and we need all able bodied men to keep them out. It is sad for the families and they should be taken care of, but the men and women that join up do know what they are signing up for and are not forced to join.
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Post by psycho on Jul 11, 2009 19:59:02 GMT
Loads of people get killed at work, why should the military be honoured when they get killed? They signed up for a job and knew the risks when they did so. It is not as though the Germans are flying over the Channel and we need all able bodied men to keep them out. It is sad for the families and they should be taken care of, but the men and women that join up do know what they are signing up for and are not forced to join. I'm afraid i am with you on that and before everyone jumps in and has a go at us it dosn't mean we are heartless just realists they do sign up to be shot at unlike the poor guys who got called up in the world wars, they were frightened individuals who didn't want to be there. If i got squashed by a tractor everyone would say what a shame but he chose to work in that trade and the same goes for those guys . |
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Post by wulvo on Jul 11, 2009 20:04:31 GMT
Loads of people get killed at work, why should the military be honoured when they get killed? They signed up for a job and knew the risks when they did so. It is not as though the Germans are flying over the Channel and we need all able bodied men to keep them out. It is sad for the families and they should be taken care of, but the men and women that join up do know what they are signing up for and are not forced to join. That is the very reason in my humble opinion why they should be honoured. I know i could not sign up for a job when there is a very real chance of me getting killed. |
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Post by spike on Jul 11, 2009 20:26:57 GMT
Loads of people get killed at work, why should the military be honoured when they get killed? They signed up for a job and knew the risks when they did so. It is not as though the Germans are flying over the Channel and we need all able bodied men to keep them out. It is sad for the families and they should be taken care of, but the men and women that join up do know what they are signing up for and are not forced to join. That is the very reason in my humble opinion why they should be honoured. I know i could not sign up for a job when there is a very real chance of me getting killed. well said, and if i can add my bit well why not join up and do your bit |
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Post by pretender on Jul 11, 2009 20:28:05 GMT
I've had 2nd degree burns at work and a broken neck, no honours for me. I just had time off work, got better and went back to work. I worked with a bloke that lost an arm, no honours for him. Non for my dad when he (or should that be a cow) broke his leg. Or the guy near home who ploughed himself in  or the guy that was electrocuted by a pressure washer Commercial drivers get killed on the roads every day, any industry honours for them? Service men (or must that be "personell"?) get shot at, everyone knows it. Not nice for the family, but hardly a secret. |
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Post by spike on Jul 11, 2009 20:37:12 GMT
I've had 2nd degree burns at work and a broken neck, no honours for me. I just had time off work, got better and went back to work. I worked with a bloke that lost an arm, no honours for him. Non for my dad when he (or should that be a cow) broke his leg. Or the guy near home who ploughed himself in or the guy that was electrocuted by a pressure washer Commercial drivers get killed on the roads every day, any industry honours for them? Service men (or must that be "personell"?) get shot at, everyone knows it. Not nice for the family, but hardly a secret. i will beat your sob story any day, but that aside any one who joins the armed forces is worthy of respect? |
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Post by wulvo on Jul 11, 2009 20:41:17 GMT
Spike you have confused me now, do you mean me sign up? I am 53 and I think that is too old. I did try when I was younger, but I got rejected for health reasons. Apparently the military are a bit put off by someone throwing a fit in one of their tanks
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Post by tj on Jul 11, 2009 21:40:14 GMT
Most of those guys on the front line in Helmland seem to be white males. Its rather ironic that when they complete their military service and return to civvy street, and are looking for a job, they will be discriminated against by Harriet Harman's 'Equality Laws'. Is this what they are fighting for ??
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Post by spike on Jul 12, 2009 6:47:17 GMT
Spike you have confused me now, do you mean me sign up? I am 53 and I think that is too old. I did try when I was younger, but I got rejected for health reasons. Apparently the military are a bit put off by someone throwing a fit in one of their tanks apologies for the confusing the perils of reading quotes, i meant pretender should join up as clearly sitting in a tractor cab is much the same as fighting on the front line in afghanistan. |
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Post by scooby on Jul 12, 2009 7:56:43 GMT
Frankly I'm appalled by some of the comments in this topic.
Some people who join the Services today do it as a career choice. A lot feel as if they have no other choice because of their backgrounds and circumstances. Of course some are gung-ho but I can tell you that this attitude soon gets taken out of them.
And service personnel are exposed to far more danger than the rest of us ever are. And we need armed forces now just as much as we have ever done. And while they are all volunteers and not conscripted and know what the risks are that is no reason to compare their injuries or loss of life to those of us who are not service personnel.
I have an acquaintance (a Major) who got a leg blown off in Helmand. He is adamant that he was just doing his job but that doesn't mean that I treat him the same as someone who had lost a leg in a baler. He could just as easily have been killed just supporting the whims of our politicians.
I am entitled to my view just as much as the rest of the posters in this topic but to compare the deaths and injuries of people on active service with those in civvy street is disingenuous and wrong. A firefighter has been killed in Scotland this morning whilst on a shout. The fact that he joined up knowing the dangers makes him a hero in my book, just the same as the lads and lasses on active service. And their loss is our loss.
And one more thing. is bunk. A lot of the coloured youngsters from underprivileged backgrounds are on front line duty and in many cases because they couldn't see any future in civilian U.K.
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Post by franmar on Jul 12, 2009 8:09:27 GMT
I an disgusstedby some of your comments and can see some of you have never served your country,when you sign on you pledge to defend your queen and country,not police the world at gordon browns or any other prime ministers ego building ideas.
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or the guy that was electrocuted by a pressure washer