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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2009 7:10:21 GMT
I certainly did not make any racist comments. I suggest you go and do your home work before suggesting things like that. Suggesting that majority of the local polish contingent are up to no good is a fact. Please give warwickshire police a call for clarification. Because this is a fact it's not racism. I'm not sure it's racism even if it's not a fact. What I am sure of is that left wing panderings regarding racism, are more likely to incite racism than otherwise.
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Post by deiligdanskepiger on Apr 25, 2009 9:06:34 GMT
Not so sharp at finding my way around on here. a novelty this one.
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Post by itsyourself on Apr 25, 2009 13:55:23 GMT
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Post by geoff on Apr 25, 2009 14:29:48 GMT
Why??? Do you want to threaten them with legal action as well??
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Post by basilseal on Apr 25, 2009 17:09:37 GMT
I certainly did not make any racist comments. I suggest you go and do your home work before suggesting things like that. Suggesting that majority of the local polish contingent are up to no good is a fact. Please give warwickshire police a call for clarification. Because this is a fact it's not racism. I'm not sure it's racism even if it's not a fact. What I am sure of is that left wing panderings regarding racism, are more likely to incite racism than otherwise. Well the poles aren't a race, so stricktly speaking you're right, it's not racism, it's xenophobia. it's unsubstantiated bigotry whatever way you look at it.
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Post by basilseal on Apr 25, 2009 17:11:41 GMT
Why??? Do you want to threaten them with legal action as well?? Please enlighten me as to who has been threatend with legal action.
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Post by grainman on Apr 25, 2009 18:38:14 GMT
I'm not sure it's racism even if it's not a fact. What I am sure of is that left wing panderings regarding racism, are more likely to incite racism than otherwise. Well the poles aren't a race, so stricktly speaking you're right, it's not racism, it's xenophobia. it's unsubstantiated bigotry whatever way you look at it. Hard to call it unsubstantiated bigotry. More an observation Lee has made. I'd like to hear from someone around the Boston area as to what its like there now. I only live 45 minutes from there but never visit unless for footballing reasons so don't come into contact with the migrant population. However past news reports have seemed to indicate gatherings of non working migrants have been known to cause friction and ill feeling in the past.
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Post by brownbob on Apr 25, 2009 19:32:27 GMT
how about we all cut the shit. lets start communicating again,and admit that this country is goosed. thats if the powers that be are allowed to get away with it. how many members have no (police) go areas.i havn't here yet but time will tell. friends in Bradfod and Leicster assure me that these ghettos exist/ i dont know iv'e never visited either towns.but if true it's a damming indicative on this goverment.
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Post by grainman on Apr 25, 2009 19:46:47 GMT
how about we all cut the shit. lets start communicating again,and admit that this country is goosed. thats if the powers that be are allowed to get away with it. how many members have no (police) go areas.i havn't here yet but time will tell. friends in Bradfod and Leicster assure me that these ghettos exist/ i dont know iv'e never visited either towns.but if true it's a damming indicative on this goverment. Bob, are you talking about Muslim no go areas? I know there is an area in Newark inhabited by "travellers" where the police don't go for fear of being harmed. How ridiculous that respect for Authority has been eroded so greatly that someone would consider it ok to harm a policeman for patrolling an certain area.
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Post by brownbob on Apr 25, 2009 20:43:39 GMT
how about we all cut the shit. lets start communicating again,and admit that this country is goosed. thats if the powers that be are allowed to get away with it. how many members have no (police) go areas.i havn't here yet but time will tell. friends in Bradfod and Leicster assure me that these ghettos exist/ i dont know iv'e never visited either towns.but if true it's a damming indicative on this goverment. Bob, are you talking about Muslim no go areas? I know there is an area in Newark inhabited by "travellers" where the police don't go for fear of being harmed. How ridiculous that respect for Authority has been eroded so greatly that someone would consider it ok to harm a policeman for patrolling an certain area. YIP MUSLIM or god knows what areas.our police are told to go steady and let these places POLICE themselves. it's fact and the sooner some well to dos realise it the better.because once theyv'e robbed us they'll come looking for you's.bob
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Post by fendtskip on Apr 25, 2009 20:59:24 GMT
Bob, are you talking about Muslim no go areas? I know there is an area in Newark inhabited by "travellers" where the police don't go for fear of being harmed. How ridiculous that respect for Authority has been eroded so greatly that someone would consider it ok to harm a policeman for patrolling an certain area. YIP MUSLIM or god knows what areas.our police are told to go steady and let these places POLICE themselves. it's fact and the sooner some well to dos realise it the better.because once theyv'e robbed us they'll come looking for you's.bob Is it really all that bad ?
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Post by basilseal on Apr 25, 2009 21:25:35 GMT
Well the poles aren't a race, so stricktly speaking you're right, it's not racism, it's xenophobia. it's unsubstantiated bigotry whatever way you look at it. Hard to call it unsubstantiated bigotry. More an observation Lee has made. I'd like to hear from someone around the Boston area as to what its like there now. I only live 45 minutes from there but never visit unless for footballing reasons so don't come into contact with the migrant population. However past news reports have seemed to indicate gatherings of non working migrants have been known to cause friction and ill feeling in the past. It's not hard to call it unsubstantiated bigotry, as he's not provided any sort of evidence to back up his claims, so that's the unsubstantiated part covered, making such claims about a particular social or racial group covers the bigotry part. If you want to debate the problems of immigration then that's fine, but surely it would be best to base one's views on facts rather than what a friend of a friend told you is happening in some place you've never been yourself? Really, we ought to be able to disagree on matters without being disagreeable, but if people are going to express potentially offensive opinions without backing them up, then they're going to get called on them. Also, if people want their opinions to be respected, then they ought to take the time to find some evidence to back them up. We are, after all, sitting infront of the single most powerful research tool known to man, how hard can it be to find something to back up you opinions?
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Post by phil on Apr 26, 2009 0:46:51 GMT
Also, if people want their opinions to be respected, then they ought to take the time to find some evidence to back them up. We are, after all, sitting infront of the single most powerful research tool known to man, how hard can it be to find something to back up you opinions?So, you now retract you original allegations of racism Maybe we could enroll you as this forums chief researcher?? Maybe you could start by researching the nanny state & Jobsworths! Respect earns respect!!
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Post by Admin on Apr 26, 2009 7:35:22 GMT
Morning all. So that we are all clear this this forum will allow free speech. Swearing, personal attacks and racism will not be allowed and for the record there is nothing wrong with this thread so far. The original post on immigration reflected what we have all seen on the news over the last few days about Calais. With regards to problems in individual areas of this country then only the people that live there will know. You should now also be able to see a report post link at the bottom of every post so if anybody is unsure just press it.
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Post by basilseal on Apr 26, 2009 8:02:52 GMT
Also, if people want their opinions to be respected, then they ought to take the time to find some evidence to back them up. We are, after all, sitting infront of the single most powerful research tool known to man, how hard can it be to find something to back up you opinions?So, you now retract you original allegations of racism Maybe we could enroll you as this forums chief researcher?? Maybe you could start by researching the nanny state & Jobsworths! Respect earns respect!! well it would be a little difficult to provide a link to a thread deleted by BFF moderators, wouldn't it? though as lee is hapily making similar comments about immigrants on thisforum, i hardly think that whether of not he made the comments is a matter of contention, it is more a case of whether one considers such comments to be acceptable for a public forum. (though i notice that this forum is no longer public). As for earning respect, what can one say other than that your recent object lesson in this where you made a big show of resigning from BFF in a huff and then came back with a new account under the same name in a matter of days was an example to us all.
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